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RE: Réf. : Saint Michel I...66/67/68???

From: wbutcher <wbutcher~at~netvigator.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:18:34 +0800
To: "'Jules Verne Forum'" <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>

 

Philippe,

I am convinced by your arguments that the St M I was a new boat, built in
1868. But Verne sailed before that year, eg to Bordeaux to fetch Paul: what
vessel(s) did he use?

Bill

wbutcher~at~netvigator.com

http://home.netvigator.com/~wbutcher/

1/F, 46A, Lung Mei Village, Taipo, Hong Kong

 

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From: owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il [mailto:owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il] On Behalf Of
Valetoux
Sent: Monday, 05 June, 2006 4:08 PM
To: Jules Verne Forum
Subject: Réf. : Saint Michel I...66/67/68???

 


Dear Christian,

 

You are looking on Saint Michel I and you are surprised by so many versions!

You are right, main autors have no real informations and copy, with more and
less accuracy, the previous books.

As seaman, i have been shocked by wrong, stupid or romantic informations
about Jules'navigations and ships. That 's why i decided to publish my book,
speaking mainly of that point and not about the books he wrote. So may i
suggest you to read "Jules Verne, en mer et contre tous", based on a long
research (11 years) in maritime archives?

About the Saint Michel I, the administratives informations are rare, because
all the original and official documents in Saint Valéry have burned during
WWII. But Saint Michel I has been sold later to a Le Havre yachtman, and
there are documents remaining.

This ship is not a second hand or modified one, this is a new boat built by
Asselin shipyard. The construction is traditionnal, as for all fishing boats
built there. Rigging and accomodation are a little bit different as this
ship will be used for cruising. Jules was helped by a friend who design
drawings and survey the construction. This fellow was Paul Bos, a
professionnal captain sailing for a Le Havre company. The year of building
is without any doubt possible 1868.

There is actually no document to give the exact day of launching, but we
know by 2 letters that in march 1868, the building was on, and that on the
3th june, Jules made a run test. So, launching was on end of may 1868. As
usual, Allotte said that the ship was named Saint Michel during an official
ceremony, but i never succeed to get a proof, neither in the news, neither
in church archives.

So , dear friend, i hope that you have now a better idea of Saint Michel I.
Quite a "rustic" yacht, but for Jules, a major boat, as his first personnal
ship. And he has done bravery navigation, cruising without GPS, radio
and...engine! Maritime congratulations, captain Jules!

Yours faithfully,

 

Valetoux Philippe

Le Havre pilot

 

 

 

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De : Cristian <mailto:destro777~at~hotmail.com> Tello

Date : 06/04/06 20:34:21

A : jvf~at~Gilead.org.il

Sujet : Saint Michel I...66/67/68???

 

Dear friends

 

I've been investigating the date in which the Saint Michel I was bought by
Verne, so searching in the web, I see that there exist different versions of
the year of the buying. They mention some, 1866, other 1867 and until 1868.
Are here the references:

 

 1866:

 

 
<http://perso.orange.fr/assoc.lorient.ccsti/Archives/souslesmers/histoire/hi
stoire1.htm>
http://perso.orange.fr/assoc.lorient.ccsti/Archives/souslesmers/histoire/his
toire1.htm

 

Un bureau sur la mer

 

En 1866, après ses premiers succès, il loue une maison au Crotoy, dans
l’estuaire de la somme, et bientôt achète son premier bateau baptisé du
prénom de son fils : Le saint Michel I.

 

1867:

 

 <http://www.baiedesomme.org/html/fr/recherche/Documents.asp?step=3&ID=147>
http://www.baiedesomme.org/html/fr/recherche/Documents.asp?step=3&ID=147

 

Le premier bâteau de Jules Verne : le " Saint Michel I "

1867 - Ayant toujours la nostalgie de la mer, Jules Verne loue une villa au
Crotoy et achète son premier bateau : le "Saint Michel 1 ".

 

 <http://www.peterlanczak.de/stmichel.htm>
http://www.peterlanczak.de/stmichel.htm

 

Im Jahre 1867 kaufte Jules Verne sein erstes Schiff in Le Crotoy: Die SAINT
MICHEL 1.

 

 

1868:

 

 

 <http://www.j-verne.de/verne_maritim01.html>
http://www.j-verne.de/verne_maritim01.html

 

Andreas Fehrmann says:

 

1868 wurde sein erstes Segelbootes, die »Saint-Michel« fertiggestellt. Mit
der >Saint Michel<,

 

 

 <http://kervoyal.club.fr/documents/bayvilain/b-vernes.htm>
http://kervoyal.club.fr/documents/bayvilain/b-vernes.htm

 

Mais toujours la possession d'un bateau le travaille, rêve qu'il ne
réalisera qu'en 1868 avec son premier Saint Michel.

  

 
<http://www.savoirs.essonne.fr/dossiers/le-patrimoine/histoire-des-sciences/
article/type/0/intro/les-tribulations-du-capitaine-verne/chapitre/le-saint-m
ichel/>
http://www.savoirs.essonne.fr/dossiers/le-patrimoine/histoire-des-sciences/a
rticle/type/0/intro/les-tribulations-du-capitaine-verne/chapitre/le-saint-mi
chel/

 


Le Saint-Michel


 

En 1868, les revenus de la "Géographie illustrée de la France et de ses
colonies" permettent à Jules Verne de faire lancer un bateau d’inspiration
locale, "construit sur les plans et sous les yeux d’un ami, l’un des
meilleurs capitaines du Havre".

 

******************************************************************

 

Being the dates so differents, I'd want to ask you, if you Know the real
year of the buy, 'cause I'm gonna include the history of the three ships of
Verne in Spanish in my web site.....

 

I'll wait you generous collaboration

 

Sincerely from Pery, Cristian Tello

 <http://www.geocities.com/paginaverniana/ctd.htm>
http://www.geocities.com/paginaverniana/ctd.htm




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