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RE: Réf. : Saint Michel I...66/67/68???

From: Cristian Tello <destro777~at~hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:04:03 +0000
To: jvf~at~Gilead.org.il, valetoux~at~wanadoo.fr

Dear Valetoux

Thank you very much for sending me the information about St. Michel I, In my next article I'll mention of course your generous contribution, no doubt your searching has been very good, though I can't get your book, remember I'm peruvian, and it isn't avaible in my country.

I hope that you can help me other times, people like you, Ian Thompson, etc, are working hard. Some day I'll travel to France, I don't know when, but I'll go, I'm sure, ja....

Well, dear friend, thanks again.

Sincerely from Peru, Cristian Tello

http://www.geocities.com/paginaverniana/ctd.htm


From: "Valetoux" <valetoux~at~wanadoo.fr>
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Subject: Réf. : Saint Michel I...66/67/68???
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 10:08:15 +0200 (Paris, Madrid (heure d'été))

Dear Christian,
 
You are looking on Saint Michel I and you are surprised by so many versions!
You are right, main autors have no real informations and copy, with more and less accuracy, the previous books.
As seaman, i have been shocked by wrong, stupid or romantic  informations about Jules'navigations and ships. That 's why i decided to publish my book, speaking mainly of that point and not about the books he wrote. So may i suggest you to read "Jules Verne, en mer et contre tous", based on a long research (11 years) in maritime archives?
About the Saint Michel I, the administratives informations are rare, because all the original and official documents in Saint Valéry have burned during WWII. But Saint Michel I has been sold later to a Le Havre yachtman, and there are documents remaining.
This ship is not a second hand or modified one, this is a new boat built by Asselin shipyard. The construction is traditionnal, as for all fishing boats built there. Rigging and accomodation are a little bit different as this ship will be used for cruising. Jules was helped by a friend who design drawings and survey the construction. This fellow was Paul Bos, a professionnal captain sailing for a Le Havre company. The year of building is without any doubt possible 1868.
There is actually no document to give the exact day of launching, but we know by 2 letters that in march 1868, the building was on, and that on the 3th june, Jules made a run test. So, launching was on end of may 1868. As usual, Allotte said that the ship was named Saint Michel during an official ceremony, but i never succeed to get a proof, neither in the news, neither in church archives.
So , dear friend, i hope that you have now a better idea of Saint Michel I. Quite a "rustic" yacht, but for Jules, a major boat, as his first personnal ship. And he has done bravery navigation, cruising without GPS, radio and...engine! Maritime congratulations, captain Jules!
Yours faithfully,
 
Valetoux Philippe
Le Havre pilot
 
 
 
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Date : 06/04/06 20:34:21
Sujet : Saint Michel I...66/67/68???
 
Dear friends
 
I've been investigating the date in which the Saint Michel I was bought by Verne, so searching in the web, I see that there exist different versions of the year of the buying. They mention some, 1866, other 1867 and until 1868. Are here the references:
 
 1866:
 

http://perso.orange.fr/assoc.lorient.ccsti/Archives/souslesmers/histoire/histoire1.htm

 

Un bureau sur la mer

 

En 1866, après ses premiers succès, il loue une maison au Crotoy, dans l’estuaire de la somme, et bientôt achète son premier bateau baptisé du prénom de son fils : Le saint Michel I.

 

1867:

 

http://www.baiedesomme.org/html/fr/recherche/Documents.asp?step=3&ID=147

 

Le premier bâteau de Jules Verne : le " Saint Michel I "

1867 - Ayant toujours la nostalgie de la mer, Jules Verne loue une villa au Crotoy et achète son premier bateau : le "Saint Michel 1 ".

http://www.peterlanczak.de/stmichel.htm

 

Im Jahre 1867 kaufte Jules Verne sein erstes Schiff in Le Crotoy: Die SAINT MICHEL 1.

 

 

1868:

 

http://www.j-verne.de/verne_maritim01.html

 

Andreas Fehrmann says:

 

1868 wurde sein erstes Segelbootes, die »Saint-Michel« fertiggestellt. Mit der >Saint Michel<,

 

http://kervoyal.club.fr/documents/bayvilain/b-vernes.htm

 

Mais toujours la possession d'un bateau le travaille, rêve qu'il ne réalisera qu'en 1868 avec son premier Saint Michel.

  

http://www.savoirs.essonne.fr/dossiers/le-patrimoine/histoire-des-sciences/article/type/0/intro/les-tribulations-du-capitaine-verne/chapitre/le-saint-michel/

 

Le Saint-Michel

 

En 1868, les revenus de la "Géographie illustrée de la France et de ses colonies" permettent à Jules Verne de faire lancer un bateau d’inspiration locale, "construit sur les plans et sous les yeux d’un ami, l’un des meilleurs capitaines du Havre".

 

******************************************************************

 

Being the dates so differents, I'd want to ask you, if you Know the real year of the buy, 'cause I'm gonna include the history of the three ships of Verne in Spanish in my web site.....

 

I'll wait you generous collaboration

 

Sincerely from Pery, Cristian Tello

http://www.geocities.com/paginaverniana/ctd.htm



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