Jules Verne Forum

<jvf@Gilead.org.il>

JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec 19961997199819992000200120022003200420052006200720082009

Re: Amazing news coming soon ...

From: volker dehs <volker.dehs~at~web.de>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:24:10 +0200
To: Jules Verne Forum <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>

Dear Garmt,

I agree with all what you wrote in your illuminating and serene answer to the question.
You're asking two names: the author of the discovery and the coming webmaster of the site.

The first ist Norbert Percereau who has already published in the often named Bulletin the well-documented "dossier" on Gaston Verne. So i think we can be sure of his consciousness as a Verne-investigator. I don't know him personnally and think that he doen't uses the web.

The second will be Samuel Sadaune. I will give you his adress.

These are no secrets, and I think that the content of the oral presentation will be known when M. Percereau has finished his text. It is not yet, so we must give him time to do so.

I'm in the same situation as Bill to have written a biography BEFORE. But I think that are good news knowing there ist still work for ifurther investigations

kind regards, Volker


> Dear friends,
>
> In the recent discussion on a certain discovery presented at the AG of the
> SJV, I feel sympathy for Bernhard, Lionel and others who regret having to
> wait until October before the announcement is made 'urbi et orbi'. I
> myself didn't have the opportunity to go to Paris for the AG, so I'll have
> to wait until October as well, which is annoying.
>
> On the other hand, I do understand Jean-Pierre's scruples about giving
> away the surprise of the announcement, and stealing the discoverer's
> thunder. As an aside: who is the discoverer anyway?
>
> As Jean-Pierre wrote:
>
> > Les informations dont il était question dans mon premier message étaient
> > confidentielles, c'est vrai! Il me semble normal que les découvreurs de faits
> > nouveaux profitent un minimum de leur travail de recherche et l'exploitent
> > au maximum avant toute publication. Cela se passe comme cela dans toutes les
> > équipes de recherches, que ce soit en littérature, en physique nucléaire ou
> > en biochimie!
>
> But once a discovery has been presented at a conference, it's out in the
> open, and why shouldn't the world talk about it?
>
> Here we see a problem with the situation where the Bulletin is the only
> means that the SJV has to bring out news. There's such a long time between
> the presentation of this discovery at the AG and its publication in the
> BSJV, that those who are in the know find it hard to bite their tongues,
> and those who are ignorant become impatient.
>
> In science, the results would have been published as soon as possible, and
> while it takes some time for an article to be reviewed and edited, at
> least an electronic preprint is quite common nowadays.
>
> If the SJV had a website, mailing list, forum or whatever fast means of
> communication, the discovery could have been presented at the AG first,
> and immediately afterwards on the internet. Full details could have been
> kept for the final publication in the Bulletin. This would be a better
> incentive for Vernians to join the SJV and read the Bulletin. Making
> people enthusiastic is just what Jean-Pierre tried to do, but as it turns
> out, if you're forced to be vague, you can't advertise so well.
>
> On that note, I'm glad to hear that a website is in preparation.
> Jean-Pierre, may I ask who is going to be the webmaster? I'd be happy to
> offer any advice I can.
>
> I hope that this website will also feature the "Actualites de Jules
> Verne", which are now given in the Bulletin with a delay of months,
> sometimes up to a year!
>
> > Mais dire que la Société JV est une coterie me semble très exagéré.
> > Personnellement j'apprécie beaucoup le travail de qualité qui en est
> > issu, la seule chose que j'aime moins est l'a priori anti-Hetzel qui y
> > prévaut.
>
> ... and, to a lesser extent, anti-Michel.
>
> It's true that the SJV does a great job on going back to the basics. The
> publication of the original versions of Volcan d'Or, Magellanie and other
> posthumous novels is something that all Vernians can be grateful for. Idem
> for the Correspondance Verne-Hetzel, which is an invaluable tool. These
> projects are only possible thanks to the efforts of some dedicated
> Vernians, and also thanks to the contribution paid by the members of the
> SJV. I encourage everyone who has a more than average interest in Verne to
> join the SJV, if only for this reason. Also, the Bulletin is a good read,
> and IMHO its quality has improved over the years, both in looks and in
> content. There has been an increase of original texts by JV, sometimes an
> entire issue is dedicated to a previously unpublished play or story. A
> must for all Vernians.
>
> But the SJV doesn't strike me as a "Societe" in the sense of people
> interacting with each other. Sure, there is the AG every year, which is
> very nice. The couple of times I've been able to attend, it was a great
> pleasure to meet many friends whom I knew from the JV Forum. But meeting
> only once a year is no basis for feeling connected, and if it weren't for
> the Forum, all members of the SJV would have remained complete strangers
> to me. In the old days, back in the 20th century, it was unavoidable that
> contact between members was scarce, because they lived far apart from each
> other. But today, "la terre a diminué", to quote from 80 jours, and
> distance doesn't exist anymore. A mailing list or website would greatly
> enhance the involvement of members with their association.
>
> Another thing that I regret is that the members have no say in the doings
> of the society. At the AG, you get to say "yes" or "no" to a few motions,
> and that's it. This is a huge difference with the meetings of the Dutch JV
> Society, which are always very lively. People come up with ideas and
> suggestions, decisions made by the board are discussed in all openness,
> and are often changed during the discussions. None of this happens in the
> SJV, and I guess that this is what provoked the use of the word "coterie".
>
> And finally, there's the difficulty of getting in touch with the SJV: no
> e-mail address, no website. Members are asked to pay their contribution by
> cheque* and I only got the SJV's IBAN after a long time.
>
> * For those who aren't French or American: a cheque is a slip of paper
> that was used to transfer money from one account to another, before
> bank transfers were invented. :)
>
> To put it in a nutshell: the SJV does a very important job in the study of
> JV and in publishing interesting texts, but it's not very open to
> initiatives and ideas from individual members. I think that's a pity, and
> I brought it up before, but I don't think things are going to change soon.
> The creation of a SJV website is a good start, let's hope for the best.
>
> Sorry, I rambled on a bit there...
>
> Cheers,
> Garmt.

-- 
Volker Dehs, Eisenbahnstr. 9, D-37073 Göttingen. Tel.: 0551 / 38 13 088, 0162 / 47 38 630
______________________________________________________________
Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
Received on Wed 14 Jun 2006 - 21:24:24 IDT

JV.Gilead.org.il
Copyright © Zvi Har’El
$Date: 2009/02/01 22:36:11 $$