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Re: Joyous Miseries (+ LtdM)

From: Brian Taves <briantaves1879~at~yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 10:02:36 -0700 (PDT)
To: Jules Verne Forum <jvf~at~gilead.org.il>







Hi Ian,
 
I may not be able to be personally first in line for your book in Edinburgh, but am there in spirit, and eager to order a copy.  Looking forward to it!

Brian Taves


From: Ian Thompson <ian.thompson~at~ges.gla.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Joyous Miseries (+ LtdM)
To: "Jules Verne Forum" <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>
Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 1:33 PM


Bill,
I take the point in your last paragraph. It is what I try to cover in my
book on "Jules Verne's Scotland in fact and fiction" which describes in
detail his 1859 and 1879 visits to Scotland and then attempts to relate
this to his "Scottish" novels. I have just corrected the proofs so it
should be published next month and launched at the Edinburgh
International Book Festival. More detail to follow.
Regards,
Ian





On 10/05/2011 11:32, wbutcher wrote:
> Dear Per Johan,
>
> Thanks for the kind compliments. I would emphasise that my aim was
> relatively modest, simply to provide an edition of Joyous Miseries (JM),
> together with as much directly relevant information as I could find, but
> excluding the trip itself, (largely) the 1861 diary, The Lottery Ticket
> (BL) and even (largely) Verne’s sketches (briefly covered in Salon de
> 1857 and elsewhere).
>
> Thanks also for your private message, with its discreet suggestions,
> which will be very useful for the 2^nd edn.
>
> I think you raise two important points. Verne was not only interested in
> pictorial representations, but, as we know, produced his own, and even
> used pictures of different sorts to write his books. (Before unfair
> criticisms are raised as to lack of references, I am rapidly summarising
> here part of my current research on Verne’s sources, which are often
> pictures rather than texts.)
>
> The five-way relation between JM, BL, the diary, Verne’s sources and
> real-life Scandinavia is a challenging field of primary research that it
> is indeed vital to investigate – and who better than you? More
> generally, the intersection between Verne’s books and life is in my view
> a neglected field, with little research carried out to date. The
> Scandinavian (and Scottish) trips would seem to form an ideal entry to
> it, if only because of the amount of information now available. So
> please keep up the good work!
>
> Best regards,
>
> /Bill/
>
> **http://www.ibiblio.org/julesverne/**
>
> **1A, Kai Kuk Shue Ha, Luk Keng, North District, NT, HONG KONG**
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il [mailto:owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il] *On
> Behalf Of *Per Johan Moe
> *Sent:* 06 May 2011 21:01
> *To:* jvf~at~Gilead.org.il; wbutcher~at~netvigator.com
> *Subject:* Re: Joyous Miseries (+ LtdM)
>
> Dear Bill
> This is excellent work.
> - the critical material is truly interesting to read.
> And thank you for the kind references to my work.
> .
> Indeed the pictures from the travel magazine; //Le Tour du Monde//
> (1860) clearly appealed to Verne´s "visual nature of imagination” as you
> put it. I find illustrations no.10 and no.11 particularly interesting in
> that context.
> Picture no.11 - showing log-cabins at the Bamble hamlet in the Heddal
> valley, was a place Verne himself visited on his Telemark journey, and
> it was 25 years later written into the novel Lottery Ticket as the home
> of Siegfrid Helmboe, Juhel´s fiancé.
> Picture no.10, inside the Bolkesjö-Inn, is also mentioned in the novel,
> as an important stopping place for every traveller of the period
> (P.Riant, J.Leclercq etc.)
> However, Verne´s diary indicate that he did //not// select this route
> for himself on his way to the Rjukan falls in 1861. [I //do// know most
> articles on the subject to date states the opposite, though]
> .
> .
> **Some xtra info that might interest the Forum***
> *I will suggest for the readers of the Forum to have a closer look at
> the LTdM-pictures that Bill presents here, accompanying his new
> translation:
> We know that Verne indicated for his publisher & illustrators that
> visual background material for the novel LT could be found in this LTdM
> article.
> Traces of this is evident if we study the picture (from LT ) of Hulda at
> Madam Hansen´s inn at Dal (Rjukan, Telemark)- and compare to Bills
> ill.no.10.
> [look closely at the furniture/shelf in the background, jugs, jars,
> candlestick + legs of table]
> (link to pics: http://wp.me/Pad3Q-RN) ]
> .
> As we are in the 'anniversary-year' for the Verne´s Scandinavian voyage,
> I would like also to add some extra information connected to this image
> because, Lancelot´s LTdM-drawing from inside the Bolkesjö Inn
> (pic.no.10), holds more 'secrets' still:
> Have a look at the man with the strikingly long hair. For a long time I
> did not pay much attention to the features of this person
> - until last summer when I visited this very inn, (these old log
> buildings from 1776 still stands)
> The current owner, Mrs. Bolkesjö, great great grand daughter of the very
> same innkeper that greeted LTdM-writer Paul Riant back in 1858, welcomed
> me.
> During this visit to the Bolkesjö area and the Jondalen valley close by,
> I was presented with a booklet containing a portrait from 1844 of the
> very same innkeeper, drawn by the famous Norwegian painter Adolf
> Tidemand. (Tidemand (ref. Verne/Salon 1857) - was later credited as
> artistic source, under an other LTdM-drawing made by Pelcoq).
>
> This drawing by A.Tidemand (see scan through the below link) had a
> striking resemblance with the Lancelot xylographic engraving, because of
> the 'hairstyle'
> - I find it very likely that those two images depict the very same person.
> .
> Mr. Gullik Olsson Bolkesjö, the original owner of the inn, was a member
> of the N. parliament, 'The Storting' - and was known to sit down to chat
> with his visitors. Most likely, writer Paul Riant of LTdM made a sketch
> of him and handed it over to artist Lancelot to make a proper picture.
> The interior reappeared in Vernes novel through G. Roux´s drawing, but
> the innkeeper did not
> - he was exchanged by a proprietor of the opposite sex: Madame Hansen -
> probably inspired by Verne´s own stay at the Kongsberg guesthouse
> bearing her name.
> Adolf Tidemands drawing of the male innkeeper at Bolkesjø ended up in
> the vaults of the Norwegian National Gallery.
> [for easy access, the images discussed can be seen
> here:http://wp.me/Pad3Q-RN]
> .
> - best regards Per Johan
> at the Oslofjord, Norway
> www.jules-verne.no/english <http://www.jules-verne.no/english>
> celebrating the 150 yrs:
> 1861 - 2011
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "wbutcher" <wbutcher~at~netvigator.com>
>     To: "'Jules Verne Forum'" <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>
>     Sent: Wed, 4 May 2011 22:06:17 +0800
>     Subject: Joyous Miseries
>
>     Dear All,
>
>     I am pleased to announce that I’ve published my translation, with
>     critical apparatus, of Joyous Miseries of Three Travellers in
>     Scandinavia on
>     http://www.ibiblio.org/julesverne/JoyousMiseriescompact.pdf. A
>     revised edition, incorporating constructive comments and
>     suggestions, will be available shortly.
>
>     Best wishes,
>
>     /Bill /
>
>     //
>
>     **http://www.ibiblio.org/julesverne/ **
>
>     **
>
>     **1A, Kai Kuk Shue Ha, Luk Keng, North District, NT, HONG KONG**
>
> =
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