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Re: Abridged editiions

From: wbutcher <wbutcher~at~netvigator.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 18:50:58 +0800
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Dear Rick,

 

Spot on! But the Rencontre and Livre de Poche of 20M were identical (ie
facsimiles), and the LdP were apparently the first complete editions since
Hetzel/Hachette, so Mickel's claim here does make sense if he's claiming
LdP/Rencontre and Flammarion as the first two (unlike at least one of his
more outrageous claims).

 

Best

 

Bill

wbutcher~at~netvigator.com

http://verne.tk/

1/F, 46A, Lung mei Village, Taipo, Hong Kong

 

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From: owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il [mailto:owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il] On Behalf Of
rick walter
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:01 AM
To: Jules Verne Forum
Subject: Re: Abridged editiions

 

Hi Norm--

 

Other than giving the date 1928, Mickel doesn't specify which Hachette
edition he's thinking of -- I've always assumed he must have meant the Verte
text, which is a drastic juvenile condensation. Otherwise, I've worked with
the 2-vol. Hachette from 1923 (not 1928 per Mickel) and can state that it
isn't cut, though it was based on Heztel's softcover texts of 1869 and 1870,
thus featuring a number of small variants from editions based on the in-8
text of 1871. As for the Livre de Poche text of 20K, I've worked with it
extensively in conjunction with copies of the 1871 edition -- it is indeed
"integral." Regarding your claim that Mickel calls Rencontre '69 the first
"full" edition, it's not literally true; on p. 62 of his intro he writes:
"Not until the 1960s . . . does the public get TWO [emphasis mine] restored
editions of the author's original text"--viz, not only the Rencontre but the
Flammarion. All the same, does he mean these were the ONLY complete editions
popularly available in the 20th century? If so, the facts don't bear him
out.

 

Again, the LdP is reliable, likewise the hypertext version on Zvi's site. (I
haven't vetted Gutenberg's French text, tho I have no reason to doubt it.)

 

It would, of course, be marvelous if the French savants would prepare a
variorum edition of 20K, as Bill Butcher and I have periodically bemoaned.
But otherwise the situation isn't as alarming as you fear.

 

All the best,

 

Rick Walter

in Albuquerque.

----- Original Message -----

From: N Wolcott <mailto:nwolcott~at~dsdial.net>

To: Jules Verne Forum <mailto:jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>

Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 12:48 PM

Subject: Abridged editiions

 

Reading the introduction to Emanuel Mickel's 20K, he mentions that Sampson
Low were not the only ones to cut Verne novels, but that Hachette upon
taking over the Hetzel corpus in 1928 also issued 20% cut versions of 20,000
Lealgues, but that readers, having the text in 2 separate volumes, might
suppose they were getting the whole thing. He says it was not until the
Recontre edition of 1969 that the full volume became available. My question
is, does this mean that all the Hachette editiions, Biblioteque Verte etc
are all chopped? And what about the Livre de Poche editions, many of which
have a "texte integral" sticker on them, are they too suspect? And do they
still issue the cut editiions? And what about the many french versions on
the internet? This is another problem we don't need to have???

 

N Wolcott nwolcott2~at~post.harvard.edu
Received on Mon 28 Feb 2005 - 12:51:24 IST

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