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Re: Wikipedia articles

From: aevans2 tds.net <aevans2~at~tds.net>
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 19:31:46 -0400
To: Jules Verne Forum <jvf~at~gilead.org.il>

Prof. Arthur Edwards?

Is this an example of a "good faith" error? ;-)



On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:17 PM, <1001~at~atlanticbb.net> wrote:

> I havve posted the following comment on the JV Talk Page,don't know if it
> will gather any replies.
> Need for a new page
>
> This page has many errors, and has been subject to continuous vandalism.
> Many corrections made in good faith may have in fact introduced more errors.
> There are many Verne experts who are members of the North American Jules
> Verne Society, William Butcher and Prof. Arthur Edwards, to name a couple,
> competent to pass judgment on modifications, and once a definitive page has
> been established the page should be locked down and mods referred to
> arbitrators. This page has been denigrated by professional Verne scholars
> and has reflected unnecessarily on the quality of Wikipedia in general. (
> Varnesavant <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Varnesavant> (talk<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Varnesavant>)
> 15:48, 7 April 2009 (UTC))
>
> Another possibillitiy is to attack the problem piecemeal, working on one
> section at a time. The way a Wikipedia article is structured is there is a
> general introduction accessed only by editing the entire article, then there
> are various sections which can be edited separately. Each section can be
> further subdivided by adding new material, and an index is automatically
> created from the text itself. Thus it is possible for an article to grow
> like Topsy. I would be glad to coordinate any sectional changes that may be
> proposed.
>
> Once a section has been updated, frequent visits to the History page are
> necessary to see who has been changing it. Often the beagles will add such
> things as references to other Wikipedia articles by highlighting them, which
> is OK. Substantive changes need to be monitored however. One could start
> with the list ov Verne's books which omit the date of French publicatioin.
> nwolcott2~at~post.harvard.edu
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* wbutcher <wbutcher~at~netvigator.com>
> *To:* 'Jules Verne Forum' <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 06, 2009 9:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Wikipedia articles
>
> Much better. The biography section contains a number of mistakes; the
> articles have very few footnote references; and the bibliographies ignore
> everything not published in French. But otherwise it’s above average. A
> translation of it would be a great progress – but there is no easy way of
> deleting the existing English-language articles, as far as I know.
>
>
>
> *Bill*
>
> *http://home.netvigator.com/~wbutcher/<http://home.netvigator.com/%7Ewbutcher/>
> *
>
> *1A, Kai Kuk Shue Ha, Luk Keng, NT, HONG KONG*
>
>
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> *From:* owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il [mailto:owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il] *On
> Behalf Of *1001~at~atlanticbb.net
> *Sent:* 07 April 2009 00:06
> *To:* Jules Verne Forum
> *Subject:* Re: Wikipedia articles
>
>
>
> Is the French Wikipedia any better? they have different authors for French
> Wikipedia. Maybe we could just translate their articles??
>
> german might also be a possibilitiy. I found the Gernan Wikipedia very
> helpful on the Moon Maps.
>
> nwolcott2~at~post.harvard.edu
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* wbutcher <wbutcher~at~netvigator.com>
>
> *To:* 'Jules Verne Forum' <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:52 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Wikipedia articles
>
>
>
> It reminds me of the Irish joke: if you were going there, I certainly
> wouldn’t start from here! While Wikipedia is in general a wonderful
> resource, the Verne section is hopeless. What would need doing, as a
> minimum, is the following:
>
> Ø scrap the existing biography page
>
> Ø remove the American bias from the Verne pages
>
> Ø take account of the research of the past 40 years, mostly not in
> English
>
> Ø avoid repeating half-truths, myths, inventions and stereotypes.
>
>
>
> While I wish you luck, I’m not optimistic substantial change can be made.
>
>
>
> *Bill*
>
> *http://home.netvigator.com/~wbutcher/<http://home.netvigator.com/%7Ewbutcher/>
> *
>
> *1A, Kai Kuk Shue Ha, Luk Keng, NT, HONG KONG*
>
>
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>
> *From:* owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il [mailto:owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il] *On
> Behalf Of *1001~at~atlanticbb.net
> *Sent:* 05 April 2009 23:15
> *To:* Jules Verne Forum
> *Subject:* Wikipedia articles
>
>
>
> While my computer is bust I have been trying to update some Wikipedia
> articles. The ones I have been workiing on are Earth to the Moon, Around the
> Moon, Mysterious Island, Lewis Mercier, Stephen White, W.H.G. Kingston. I
> have not tried to rewrite everything and some of the articles have grown too
> long with additional material added in, The wikipedia beagles keep deleting
> new stuff too so it is an ongoiing process. Also old links disappear and
> need to be replaced. Let me know if there is anything in particular you
> think needs to be changed in any of the Wikipedia articles and I will do my
> best.
>
>
>
> nwolcott2~at~post.harvard.edu On the Miles in St. Michaels MD
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