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Re: Differing editions of TM: here VCT

From: Alex Kirstukas <infernalnonsense~at~yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 06:30:02 -0700 (PDT)
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Thank you Harry.

--- On Sun, 8/1/10, Harry Hayfield <harryhayfield~at~googlemail.com> wrote:

From: Harry Hayfield <harryhayfield~at~googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: Differing editions of TM: here VCT
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Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 8:12 AM

 If we are talking about how hot the earth could get in Journey, this is how I explained it in 2008 when blogging for Axel   "It is perfectly well known that the internal temperature rises one degree for every 70 feet in depth" I said, "now, admitting this proportion to be constant, and the radius of the earth being fifteen hundred leagues, there must be a temperature of 360,032 degrees at the centre of the earth. Therefore, all the substances that compose the body of this earth must exist there in a state of incandescent gas; for the metals that most resist the action of heat, gold, and platinum, and the hardest rocks, can never be either solid or liquid under such a temperature" -----Original Message-----
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Alex

--- On Sun, 8/1/10, Volker Dehs <volker.dehs~at~web.de> wrote:

From: Volker Dehs <volker.dehs~at~web.de>
Subject: Re: Differing editions of TM: here VCT
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Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 3:41 AM


gr. in-8° from the beginning to the end (45 ch.): "more than two hundred thousand degrees".
Curiously, the in-8° of 1896 (Succès scolaires) writes again 2 millions, so the text must have been taken from the in-18.


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Which then would be the editions which have 2 million degrees in chapter 6 yet still with 45 chapters??--the version used by Baldick in 1950 has 2 million degrees, the version used by white apparently in 1874 also with 45 chapters and 2 million degrees. I have a Hachette version post 1920 which has 2 million degrees, 45 chapters, yet otherwise an abridged edition.




I'm not sure about this interpretation. For VCT, in-18 was published in 1864. The corrected and augmented gr. in-8° came out in 1867; these corrections (the new chapter on paleontological facts) were inserted in the in-18 only in the 12th ed. of 1872 (edition not changed in the 1880ies but reprinted then with a new type-setting). But if Verne inserted the new chapter in this edition, he never managed to make minor revisions of the rest of the text (linked to the new chapter), so that, in fact, VCT in-18 after 1872 up tu 1914 offers a slightly mixed version of in-18 of 1864 and gr. in-8° of 1867.
On the other hand, Hetzel published a fourth and neglected version of the novel in the serie "Succès scolaires" (1896 and 1903), in-8°, 316 pages. It has never been verified if these ultimate edition presents finally a synthetic version (I don't think, however, that Verne at this time made any changes). Unfortunately, this edition is very rare. But that is a work which must be done in the future.

Best,
Volker


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Best,
Volker

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In researching Le Tour du monde en quatre-vingts jours, I've come upon a rather confusing textual problem.

In the 1873 first edition (hereafter called "H1873") and the 1884 grand-in-8 edition ("H1884a,") there is a conversation running:

— A pied! s'écrièrent tous les voyageurs.
— Mais à quelle distance est donc cette station? demanda l'un d'eux au conducteur.
— A douze milles, de l'autre côté de la rivière.
— Douze milles dans la neige!» s'écria Stamp W. Proctor.

However, in the 1884 paperback edition ("H1884b") and whatever editions the first three English translators (G. M. Towle, Steven W. White, and Henry Frith) were working from, the same conversation runs:

— Cependant elle n'est qu'à un mille de nous, dit un des voyageurs.
— Un mille, en effet, mais de l'autre côté da la rivière.
— Et cette rivière, ne peut-on la traverser en bateau? demanda le colonel.
— Impossible. Le creek est grossi par les pluies. C'est un rapide, et nous serons forcés de faire un détour de dix milles au nord pour trouver un gué.»

Also, in Chapter III, Fogg has a line running: "Tout de suite. Seulement, je vous préviens que je le ferai à vos frais." The second sentence appears in H1884b and the three translations, but is missing from H1873 and H1884a.

There appear, then, to be two slightly different versions of the book floating around. (They also appear to have a few smaller differences, such as when the "W" appears in Stamp W. Proctor's name, but I haven't tried looking for all of them yet.) Any knowledge of where the different versions came from? And why did both continue to be printed simultaneously?

Thanks,

Alex


  


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