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Re: Russian Mysterious Island Movie

From: Marie-Helene Huet (mhhuet~at~Princeton.EDU) <mhhuet~at~Princeton.EDU>
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:46:18 -0400
To: Jules Verne Forum <jvf~at~gilead.org.il>

Thanks a lot for all this information. It sounds terrific and I am planning to get the movie! I wonder whether it would be possible, so long after production, to re-issue it with subtitles in English. What sort of logistics would it require? I suppose it is not free of coyrights...Brian, would you know?
MH

----- Original Message -----
From: dumitrescu <emil34~at~earthlink.net>
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:45 pm
Subject: Re: Russian Mysterious Island Movie
To: Jules Verne Forum <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>

>
> The movie is in Russian which is a big language barrier (I was
> forced in school one year to study Russian language and I know a
> couple of words) nevertheless the movie is a visual feast and the
> music although uplifting (like in Stalinist times) matches the
> pioneer spirit. If you try in a movie to reproduce the original
> XIX century illustrations, that becomes for a Jules Verne lover
> a window , a unique window in the imagery of that time and how
> actually Jules Verne and Hertzel saw their world .I could say that
> is the only movie which recreates the JV world. Who could say that
> in the movie industry ???( today only the ¡§Steampunk¡¨ movement
> tried to reproduce the Victorian era images)Except super
> productions like ¡§Around the world in 80 days¡¨ (David Niven) or
> ¡§Journey to the center of the world ¡§(James Manson) the rest (with
> the Russian exceptions where like all over the communist world
> Jules Verne was over promoted and accurately reproduced ) is just
> spectacu! lar , entertaining junk. This is OK for the regular
> people but not for Jules Verne connoisseurs. It is such a pity
> when in our digital era times you could recreate any images from
> JV books.Emil Dumitrescu Winchester MASS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Dennis Kytasaari <djk~at~epguides.com>
> >Sent: Aug 30, 2011 3:27 PM
> >To: 'Jules Verne Forum' <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>
> >Subject: Re: Russian Mysterious Island Movie
> >
> >I see when doing that search and then flipping over to images, I
> found the film is available for purchase on RussianDVD.com. It is
> a region 2 disc and it does not contain subtitles of any kind, so
> unless you have some command of that language, all you can really
> do it watch the images and if you know the story (as most of us
> here do) you can follow along.
> >
> >Dennis
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il [mailto:owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il] On
> Behalf Of Garmt de Vries-Uiterweerd
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:00 AM
> >To: Jules Verne Forum
> >Subject: Re: Russian Mysterious Island Movie
> >
> >Do a search for "ÈhÈUÈ^ÈcÈgÈhÈWÈZÈcÈcÈqÈ_ ÈdÈgÈhÈfÈdÈW 1941", which yields a bunch of
> >results, including online versions of the film:
> >
> >http://io.ua/ve8440b880a972a18e218b4cfef18fc4c
> >http://teramult.org.ua/mult/1941_su_film_tainstvennyj.ostrov
> >
> >and a torrent for a DVD rip:
> >http://nnm-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=320969
> >
> >It's amazing how faithful and watchable some of these really old
> films>are. The 1936 Deti kapitana Granta is another great example.
> It's a
> >shame that these are so difficult to get hold of over here in Western
> >Europe. I had some success browsing posylka.de in the past, but
> when I
> >revisited that site just now, I didn't see any Verne films.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Garmt.
> >
> >On 30 August 2011 14:51, Marie-Helene Huet (mhhuet~at~Princeton.EDU)
> ><mhhuet~at~princeton.edu> wrote:
> >> Is there a video one can buy? I would love to see it.
> >>
> >> MH Huet
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Steve <steveseg~at~aol.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 8:43 am
> >> Subject: Re: Russian Mysterious Island Movie
> >> To: jvf~at~Gilead.org.il
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> have you seen the Russian version of " The Mysterious Island " ?
> >>> It seems to be by far the most faithful to the book
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have seen it and I concur. I believe it was filmed while WW II
> >>> raged. Amazing!
> >>>
> >>> Steve S.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: crmoser <crmoser~at~shaw.ca>
> >>> To: Jules Verne Forum <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>
> >>> Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:33 am
> >>> Subject: Re: Jules Verne Radio Shows
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Drake - have you seen the Russian version of " The Mysterious
> >>> Island " ? It seems to be by far the most faithful to the book
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Drake Lolley
> >>> To: Jules Verne Forum
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 1:58 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Jules Verne Radio Shows
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Alex,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the correction! I should have looked closer at the
> >>> dates... I have already listed to the 1938 recording, and I
> >>> enjoyed the parts that they lift in, and lamented the parts that
> >>> they left out. Obviously, it was impossible to fit the entire book
> >>> into one radio program, and so many portions were very briefly
> >>> summarized "journal entry" style. It sounds like the 1946
> >>> recording might be more interesting from a comedic point of view;
> >>> I'm glad that I listened to the earlier version!
> >>> By the way, I have found a radio adaption of "The Mysterious
> >>> Island", which is my favorite Jules Verne book. I have just
> >>> started listening to it, so let's hope that the plot is not badly
> >>> mangled. Unfortunately, I have had some very bad experiences with
> >>> Mysterious Island adaptions in the past, particularly in movies.
> >>> Thanks again!
> >>>
> >>> Drake
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:17:47 -0700 (PDT), Alex Kirstukas wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Drake,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Just a quick note -- Welles's 1938 recording isn't the same as his
> >>> 1946 one. The former is a straightforward adaptation of 80D (the
> >>> Stephen W. White translation); the latter is a condensed version
> >>> of, and long commercial for, Welles's Broadway musical Around the
> >>> World (songs by Cole Porter, adaptation again from the White
> >>> translation). Both are interesting, but rather strange; the 1938
> >>> Aouda sounds like Natasha Fatale from The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show,
> >>> and the 1946 Cole Porter songs are extremely silly. ("Phileas" is
> >>> made to rhyme with "Piccadilly-ous," and the big romantic number
> >>> is built around the line "Should I tell you that I love you, or
> >>> wait till you tell me?"!)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Alex
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Drake Lolley
> >>> To: Jules Verne Forum
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 2:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Jules Verne Radio Shows
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mr. Keeline,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your reply! The only "vintage" recording of a Jules
> >>> Verne radio drama that I could find on Archive.org was here:
> >>> http://www.archive.org/details/1946MercurySummerTheatre
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This was, of course, the same recording that was kindly
> brought to
> >>> light earlier by Mr. Kytasaari.
> >>> I have done some more research into the matter since my last post,
> >>> and I have unearthed a few more available vintage recordings. I
> >>> don't know if this is a topic that interests anyone else here on
> >>> the forum, but I will try to post my findings. It would be great
> >>> to see all of these recordings in one place! This may be one
> of my
> >>> future projects.
> >>> I have looked into librivox and other similar services in the
> >>> past, but unfortunately I have not had much luck with them. Being
> >>> a speed reader, I found that the slow reading pace of many of the
> >>> recordings was very trying to the nerves! This, of course, was my
> >>> fault and not theirs, and I greatly admire the spirit of these
> >>> projects... I have just found that reading the actual book is
> >>> easier for me. I greatly appreciate that you took the time to look
> >>> up these sources, though. Thank you!
> >>>
> >>> Drake
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:26:39 -0700 (PDT), James Keeline wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Not quite in the classic radio drama class but more like
> "books on
> >>> tape" are the readings offered free on http://www.LibriVox.org
> >>> which are performed by amateurs. Some are better than others, of
> >>> course. The Verne titles may be found on this search:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://catalog.librivox.org/search.php?author=Jules+Verne
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Archive.org has many radio dramas but I don't notice any of the
> >>> vintage ones on this Jules Verne search. There may be other items
> >>> of interest though:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=%22Jules%20Verne%22%20AND%20mediatype%3Aaudio>>>
> >>>
> >>> At the very least you could fill up your iPod or other MP3 player
> >>> with these readings available in several languages.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> James D. Keeline
> >>> _____
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.Keeline.com
> >>> http://Stratemeyer.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Brian Taves
> >>> To: Jules Verne Forum
> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:58 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: Jules Verne Radio Shows
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Years ago I traced the English-language radio-audio
> adaptations of
> >>> JV. My definition included from an dramatized version, to a
> >>> condensation read by a single reader, but excluded straightforward
> >>> readings of by a single individual of an entire novel, ie book-
> on-
> >>> tape or audio book.
> >>>
> >>> The total was around fifty, from the early days of radio in the
> >>> 1930s, thru the present. I know that there are at least that many
> >>> and more broadcast in such countries as France, Germany, and the
> >>> former Czechoslovakia.
> >>>
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >
> >
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