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Re: Russian Mysterious Island Movie

From: Brian Taves <briantaves1879~at~yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:48:26 -0700 (PDT)
To: Jules Verne Forum <jvf~at~gilead.org.il>

Hi MH,
It is probably under copyright but the distributor may not be doing it legally anyway--the problem is the minimal demand for a subtitled or dubbed version.
 
This poetic filming of the novel, as indicated before, is most interesting for its adherence to the design of the engravings, altho not as literally as Zeman, going into animation and obvious artificiality.  The sequence of Nemo's death does anticipate this approach, however.  
 
My own copy is in Russian, tho at the JV film fest I curated back in Nantes in 2005, it was shown subtitled in French--which enhanced appreciation greatly (at least my own).  Nonetheless, knowledge of Russian is not essential to enjoy this version, and there's the score and sound effects to help you along, as well as the vocal intonations.
 
While the Captain Grant Russian film Garmt refers to was distributed in the US in 1936, none of the subsequent films from that country were shown here in the English-speaking world. 
 
Actually, all the Russian Verne films I've obtained over the years have been most rewarding, although as far as I know none are available in English, French, Spanish, etc.


Brian

From: Marie-Helene Huet (mhhuet~at~Princeton.EDU) <mhhuet~at~princeton.edu>
Subject: Re: Russian Mysterious Island Movie
To: "Jules Verne Forum" <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>
Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 2:46 AM



Thanks a lot for all this information. It sounds terrific and I am planning to get the movie! I wonder whether it would be possible, so long after production, to re-issue it with subtitles in English. What sort of logistics would it require? I suppose it is not free of coyrights...Brian, would you know?
MH

----- Original Message -----
From: dumitrescu <emil34~at~earthlink.net>
Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:45 pm
Subject: Re: Russian Mysterious Island Movie
To: Jules Verne Forum <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>

>
> The movie is in Russian which is a big language barrier (I was
> forced in school one year to study Russian language and I know a
> couple of words) nevertheless the movie is a visual feast and the
> music although uplifting (like in Stalinist times) matches the
> pioneer spirit. If you try in a movie to reproduce the original 
> XIX century illustrations,   that becomes for a Jules Verne  lover
> a window  , a unique window in the imagery of that time and how
> actually Jules Verne and Hertzel saw their world .I could say that
> is the only movie which recreates the JV world. Who could say that
> in the movie industry ???( today only the “Steampunk” movement
> tried to reproduce the Victorian era images)Except super
> productions like  “Around the world in 80 days” (David Niven) or 
> “Journey to the center of the world “(James Manson) the rest (with
> the Russian exceptions where like all over the communist world
> Jules Verne was over promoted and accurately reproduced ) is just
> spectacu! lar , entertaining junk. This is OK for the regular
> people but not for Jules Verne connoisseurs. It is such a pity
> when in our digital era times you could   recreate any images from
> JV books.Emil Dumitrescu Winchester MASS.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Dennis Kytasaari <djk~at~epguides.com>
> >Sent: Aug 30, 2011 3:27 PM
> >To: 'Jules Verne Forum' <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>
> >Subject: Re: Russian Mysterious Island Movie
> >
> >I see when doing that search and then flipping over to images, I
> found the film is available for purchase on RussianDVD.com.  It is
> a region 2 disc and it does not contain subtitles of any kind, so
> unless you have some command of that language, all you can really
> do it watch the images and if you know the story (as most of us
> here do) you can follow along.
> >
> >Dennis
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il [mailto:owner-jvf~at~Gilead.org.il] On
> Behalf Of Garmt de Vries-Uiterweerd
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:00 AM
> >To: Jules Verne Forum
> >Subject: Re: Russian Mysterious Island Movie
> >
> >Do a search for "таинственный остров 1941", which yields a bunch of
> >results, including online versions of the film:
> >
> >http://io.ua/ve8440b880a972a18e218b4cfef18fc4c
> >http://teramult.org.ua/mult/1941_su_film_tainstvennyj.ostrov
> >
> >and a torrent for a DVD rip:
> >http://nnm-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=320969
> >
> >It's amazing how faithful and watchable some of these really old
> films>are. The 1936 Deti kapitana Granta is another great example.
> It's a
> >shame that these are so difficult to get hold of over here in Western
> >Europe. I had some success browsing posylka.de in the past, but
> when I
> >revisited that site just now, I didn't see any Verne films.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Garmt.
> >
> >On 30 August 2011 14:51, Marie-Helene Huet (mhhuet~at~Princeton.EDU)
> ><mhhuet~at~princeton.edu> wrote:
> >> Is there a video one can buy? I would love to see it.
> >>
> >> MH Huet
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Steve <steveseg~at~aol.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 8:43 am
> >> Subject: Re: Russian Mysterious Island Movie
> >> To: jvf~at~Gilead.org.il
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> have you seen the Russian version of " The Mysterious Island " ?
> >>> It seems to be by far the most faithful to the book
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have seen it and I concur. I believe it was filmed while WW II
> >>> raged. Amazing!
> >>>
> >>> Steve S.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: crmoser <crmoser~at~shaw.ca>
> >>> To: Jules Verne Forum <jvf~at~Gilead.org.il>
> >>> Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 8:33 am
> >>> Subject: Re: Jules Verne Radio Shows
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Drake - have you seen the Russian version of " The Mysterious
> >>> Island " ?  It seems to be by far the most faithful to the book
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Drake Lolley
> >>> To: Jules Verne Forum
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 1:58 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Jules Verne Radio Shows
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Alex,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the correction! I should have looked closer at the
> >>> dates... I have already listed to the 1938 recording, and I
> >>> enjoyed the parts that they lift in, and lamented the parts that
> >>> they left out. Obviously, it was impossible to fit the entire book
> >>> into one radio program, and so many portions were very briefly
> >>> summarized "journal entry" style. It sounds like the 1946
> >>> recording might be more interesting from a comedic point of view;
> >>> I'm glad that I listened to the earlier version!
> >>> By the way, I have found a radio adaption of "The Mysterious
> >>> Island", which is my favorite Jules Verne book. I have just
> >>> started listening to it, so let's hope that the plot is not badly
> >>> mangled. Unfortunately, I have had some very bad experiences with
> >>> Mysterious Island adaptions in the past, particularly in movies.
> >>> Thanks again!
> >>>
> >>> Drake
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:17:47 -0700 (PDT), Alex Kirstukas wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Drake,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Just a quick note -- Welles's 1938 recording isn't the same as his
> >>> 1946 one. The former is a straightforward adaptation of 80D (the
> >>> Stephen W. White translation); the latter is a condensed version
> >>> of, and long commercial for, Welles's Broadway musical Around the
> >>> World (songs by Cole Porter, adaptation again from the White
> >>> translation). Both are interesting, but rather strange; the 1938
> >>> Aouda sounds like Natasha Fatale from The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show,
> >>> and the 1946 Cole Porter songs are extremely silly. ("Phileas" is
> >>> made to rhyme with "Piccadilly-ous," and the big romantic number
> >>> is built around the line "Should I tell you that I love you, or
> >>> wait till you tell me?"!)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Alex
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Drake Lolley
> >>> To: Jules Verne Forum
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 2:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: Jules Verne Radio Shows
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mr. Keeline,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your reply! The only "vintage" recording of a Jules
> >>> Verne radio drama that I could find on Archive.org was here:
> >>> http://www.archive.org/details/1946MercurySummerTheatre
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This was, of course, the same recording that was kindly
> brought to
> >>> light earlier by Mr. Kytasaari.
> >>> I have done some more research into the matter since my last post,
> >>> and I have unearthed a few more available vintage recordings. I
> >>> don't know if this is a topic that interests anyone else here on
> >>> the forum, but I will try to post my findings. It would be great
> >>> to see all of these recordings in one place! This may be one
> of my
> >>> future projects.
> >>> I have looked into librivox and other similar services in the
> >>> past, but unfortunately I have not had much luck with them. Being
> >>> a speed reader, I found that the slow reading pace of many of the
> >>> recordings was very trying to the nerves! This, of course, was my
> >>> fault and not theirs, and I greatly admire the spirit of these
> >>> projects... I have just found that reading the actual book is
> >>> easier for me. I greatly appreciate that you took the time to look
> >>> up these sources, though. Thank you!
> >>>
> >>> Drake
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 19:26:39 -0700 (PDT), James Keeline wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Not quite in the classic radio drama class but more like
> "books on
> >>> tape" are the readings offered free on http://www.LibriVox.org
> >>> which are performed by amateurs.  Some are better than others, of
> >>> course.  The Verne titles may be found on this search:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://catalog.librivox.org/search.php?author=Jules+Verne
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Archive.org has many radio dramas but I don't notice any of the
> >>> vintage ones on this Jules Verne search.  There may be other items
> >>> of interest though:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=%22Jules%20Verne%22%20AND%20mediatype%3Aaudio>>>
> >>>
> >>> At the very least you could fill up your iPod or other MP3 player
> >>> with these readings available in several languages.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> James D. Keeline
> >>> _____
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.Keeline.com
> >>> http://Stratemeyer.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: Brian Taves
> >>> To: Jules Verne Forum
> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:58 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: Jules Verne Radio Shows
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Years ago I traced the English-language radio-audio
> adaptations of
> >>> JV.  My definition included from an dramatized version, to a
> >>> condensation read by a single reader, but excluded straightforward
> >>> readings of by a single individual of an entire novel, ie book-
> on-
> >>> tape or audio book.
> >>>
> >>> The total was around fifty, from the early days of radio in the
> >>> 1930s, thru the present.  I know that there are at least that many
> >>> and more broadcast in such countries as France, Germany, and the
> >>> former Czechoslovakia.
> >>>
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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